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Episode 210 [in English]: Heterosexuals for Palestine

Leila Mire is a PhD candidate in Performance Studies at UC Berkeley, as well as a dancer, choreographer, organizer, and sometimes disorganized person. She researches Palestinian dance and the role of dance in US and Israeli cultural imperialism.

We discuss the misleading implications of certain “coexistence art” which locates interpersonal prejudice as the source of conflict while deliberately glossing over systemic inequality. As Leila puts it, while art can build bridges, a bridge built on uneven ground is just a dysfunctional seesaw. 

We also talk about Martha Graham, cultural appropriation as a foundation of US modern dance, the Cold War-era US State Department dance tours (that often followed a CIA coup), and how that legacy is continued by Israeli artwashing today. We also consider the hypocrisy of artists who claim their work is politically potent when applying for grants, but claim apolitical innocence when their affiliations or messaging is criticized.

Leila shouts out her dabke troupe Al-Juthoor for being an open-minded community environment and for choosing performances aligned with their political values. Leila and Nadia also talk about their personal feelings of alienation in the dance world, the subtle othering of being pushed to be a solo artist, the ridiculous economic gatekeeping for early-career dancers, and how being a leader is overrated.


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Episode 198 [in English]: This Arab Is Queer

Elias Jahshan is a Palestinian/Lebanese-Australian journalist, writer and editor. He most recently edited the anthology This Arab Is Queer, which features eighteen queer Arab writers (including a good handful of former podcast guests) sharing stories across a variety of locations, experiences, and aesthetic styles. Elias joined us to talk about growing up in Western Sydney, breaking into the journalism field in Australia and England, and the assumptions he encountered while writing for both Arab and LGBTQ centered publications. He also discussed the process of putting this memoir together, the particular care involved in editing personal work, the quandaries involved in potentially translating the book in the future, the beauty of letting people write about whatever they f*cking want, and more. 

You can find This Arab is Queer at your local independent bookstore, possibly library, bookshop.org, or Amazon if you really must.

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